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DMT Experience

Posted by cellardoor6 May. 5, 2008 @ 12:35 AM EDT

I made a thread about this last night but it got deleted. The last time I had checked it was up to 3 pages. I had a feeling it was going to get locked or deleted so I saved my original post:

What I'm doing is highly illegal. I asked a mod a while ago if I could include pictures without getting the thread locked/deleted, or getting myself banned, but he said he's not sure. I'm also putting myself at risk by basically documenting my illegal behavior as well. So I'm not quite sure if this thread is going to survive... but I'm going to make it anyway.

For those of you not familiar with it, DMT, or dimethyltraptamine is a highly potent psychoactive drug. It's the most powerful hallucinogen that humans are currently aware of. Check this video out, where Joe Rogan talks about it so you can figure out why I'm so excited about it. Also, read an excerpt of the book DMT: The Spirit Molecule, which Joe Rogan refers to in the video. It has quotes of some of the experiences people had on DMT in the clinical studies of it.

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Anyway, I've been trying to find a source for DMT for a long time. I haven't done any drugs in quite a while, but I told myself I'd try DMT at least once anyway. I scoured the earth looking for the stuff for at least a year, however I all but gave up a few months ago. But something awesome happened about 2 weeks ago, the sky opened and I got lucky.

I saw an old friend of mine that I hadn't seen in about a few years. We went to school together, but he dropped out and I barely saw him after that. We got to talking and we discussed a bunch of shit, we talked about some of the experiences we had with drugs back in the day. Without expecting him to really know anything, I brought up DMT and he just smirked as I explained it to him. I told him that I wanted to find some really bad, then he just laughed. He then revealed to me that he and his friend had been extracting nn-DMT (the good stuff) for a while. My friend personally hadn't done it, but his friend had. They had been creating it in small doses for a close circle of their friends for a while. I told him to hook me up with the guy so I could get some. His friend doesn't want to get caught, so he agreed to selling me some, but he wouldn't do it personally. It took a while for the moves to be made and whatnot, but I got it 2 weeks ago, and I took a picture of it before stowing it in the refrigerator.

Tomorrow my brother and I, his fiance, my fiance, and two of my friends are driving up to my friend's parents' cabin and we're all going to smoke it. I have enough for about 20 doses (I have what I am told is 400 mg, I'm weighing it tomorrow though because I don't have a scale in my possession).

I'm going to have a video camera, as well as a tape recorder. I may or may not post these videos/pictures on the internet, but I'll at least explain my experience in detail when I get back tomorrow. I'm a little scared, but ah well.

Here's the picture I took, as evidence, with a bottle cap next to it for contrast. It's basically a light orange-colored wax.

Discuss.

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The funny thing is that a few mods posted in it for a while, so I thought everything was good to go but apparently not. I was going to return and post my experience in it, which I just got finished typing but now my thread is gone, so I'll just do it here.

I was the first to do it. Me and my brother weighed precisely 50mg of the light-orange wax on his electric scale. I used a little plastic spoon to load it into the bowl of the pipe, then used a toothpick to push the wax into the middle of the screen. We turned all the lights off, and shut all the blinds on the windows except for the little window that was in the middle of the front door about 50 feet away from where we were in the living room. I sat down on the couch and tried to clear my mind, while looking at the sun coming in through that little window in the door. I tried to think only positive thoughts, but at first all I thought about was that I was really, really nervous. I remember looking around the room knowing that everything around me was about to disappear and be replaced with something brand new. I sat there for about 5 minutes with everyone looking at me.

My brother's fiance sat down on the couch with me when I told them I was going to go ahead and hit it. We already discussed that someone would have to grab the lighter and pipe from me shortly after I take the hit/hits. So I took deep breathes, exhaled all the air out of my lungs, put the pipe to my mouth, flicked the lighter and held the flame about an inch over the wax. I then inhaled slowly trying intentionally to keep the flame from touching the DMT (I learned that you're not supposed to expose the DMT to a naked flame, only vaporize it with the heat). I took a long, slow, but big hit. I was completely shocked by how horrible it tasted, I remember that much. I coughed that first hit out, but I immediately felt weird. I also apparently had enough time and enough of my mental and motor abilities to take another hit and clear all the DMT from the screen.

I only had about maybe 10 seconds after that where I could still see what was around me in the living room, but the room became overlapped with intense visuals. The most intricate designs and bright colors became visible all around me. I also started hearing a humming noise that started off quiet but became very loud and very intense. The sound also oscillated as I moved my eyes around. I'd look up and the sound got higher in pitch, I looked down and it got lower. I didn't only hear it but I felt the humming, like my body and the whole world was shaking. (Afterthought: It kind of reminded me of the movie the Butterfly Effect, when Ashton Kutcher is about to go back in time or whatever and everything around him starts warping.)

The surface of the walls and objects around me went dark while the designs danced around the room, but shortly before I closed my eyes I noticed that the sunlight coming in from the window was no longer a white color but a rainbow. Like a single beam of a rainbow, straight like a laser beam going down to the floor. It and and everything else was shaking along to the tone I was hearing. The rainbow beam warped and bent around like a slinky. It felt like I was being sucked towards it, it felt like that feeling you get when you accelerate in a car or an airplane on takeoff. Then I closed my eyes and the feeling of acceleration went away, but I was in an entirely different place. I no longer saw any color other than different shades of blue. It wasn't like before, now what I saw looked actually three dimensional, it looked like I was floating in the middle of a large ball. I could very easily make out the contours of the inside and so I recognized the shape as being a sphere. It had a light-blue, maybe baby-blue inner wall, but had sort of like a plaid design on it from darker blue colors. I was inside of the sphere for what felt like only a few seconds, but long enough to see that the plaid design got more concentrated at two points across from each other on the wall. I became aware that each one was a door, I had come from one and was about to go through the other. One of them then opened up and I literally saw stars, I could see very clearly that it was outer space. It didn't have any designs or anything, it was just like looking at up at the sky. I then felt the accelerating feeling again, but it was way, way stronger this time. I heard like a "swoooosh" noise as I got squeezed out of the blue ball and into space via the door. I felt like I was a piece of rubber that got shot like a rubber band. This time I could look below me and see that I was on top of like a platform. It was made out of gold, but had other colors on it, blues, reds, purples, greens etc.... I wasn't standing on it, but I was floating above it parallel to it while at the same time both it and me were being shot like a bullet through space. I passed different galaxies, solar systems, I saw new constellations and so forth. It was completely clear, no haziness or anything.

Then the craziness started happening. Although I was flying through space I looked out to the side and saw that there were creatures that were moving around in a completely different, stationary area. It's hard to as hell to describe. I still can't describe it sufficiently to make people understand, but it felt like two entirely different videos or pairs of eyes were being projected on top of each other. While stars were flying by, I also saw all around me a stationary landscape with a horizon, and on that horizon were planets, as they would look if you were on a planet and they were close (kind of like looking at the moon from earth). Some of the creatures that I couldn't originally make out the shape of walked off of their platform, over the area of space between me and where they came from and came over to me. At first they scared the hell out of me, I immediately wondered if they were evil but the feeling of fear quickly went away and now I was just purely interested. They then came on to my platform and the landscape disappeared and we were traveling through space again. As this happened I was pretty calm, I wasn't scared anymore at all. I'm pretty sure there was 12 of them, I saw now that they looked like they were made out of squares, like a snake of sideways squares. They each looked like they had about 8 squares connected making up a long, chain-like body, with a larger square on top for a head, and squares for eyes and mouthes. The texture of their bodies was completely clear and incredibly complex. It looked like each little square had like a 3-dimensional tire pattern on it, but way more complicated than that, and really bright white, with like a circle of different colors glowing from it. They lined up in front of me, I think 6 in each row, parallel to my line of sight, like they were waiting in line to come towards me. They started making chattering noises, it sounded a bit like a dolphin. One at a time, each one would step forward from one of the lines while the others stood still, and show me 'something'. It felt very much like a test, they'd step forward and pull something out of the passing stars, and it would look like a little television or a mirror or something, and inside of it would be the most insane, impossible things. I'd see symbols that would move and and it seemed like the snake creatures were asking me what I thought about them, like what they meant or said. It seemed like they were trying to determine if I could speak and read their language. One would step forward, show me something and I'd reply, in English. I don't remember exactly what I said to them, but I remember each one would acknowledge it, and give out a loud laughing noise while scampering away from me, and go to the back of the line behind the rest of them. This went on for what seemed like a few minutes. Each one did a different thing, showed me something different. The things they showed me I can't remember very vividly, but I know that each one I saw felt and looked amazing, I was amazed the whole time, like I was being filled with more information than I have ever had before. Eventually they stopped, and said what I think was "good job, but we have a lot more in store for you". I tried to ask questions, I wanted to get a grasp on who they were and what the purpose of it was, but they started to completely ignore me after that, like I was still there but they were no longer aware of me. This was the only really negative feeling I had that I can remember. I felt very lonely, then very confused. That's the only way I can describe it.

This is all I can recall clearly, the trip started wearing down after that. What I saw became dull and hazy. I could still see space flying by, but it looked like that whole vision was getting narrower and being surrounded by black. The humming noise became quieter and quieter, it sounded like it was a jet engine shutting down. The vision I saw kept getting narrower and narrower as I was backing away, until I couldn't see it anymore. Then I opened my eyes and I was back in the real world. I still felt weird, and my eyesight confused the hell out of me, like I wasn't accustomed to it. I had to concentrate to realize what was happening around me. I began to recognize the people around me. Everyone, including my concerned-looking fiance kept asking "are you back, are you alright, can you hear me?" and stuff like that. I could barely speak at all at first because I was so hyper. I used a lot of broken sentences and interrupted my self again and again. I kept saying things about what I saw and what they meant that I thought made perfect sense, but were seemingly contradictory. I said "the symbols didn't have meaning by themselves, it was the sounds they made and what I chose that changed them into something real" then a minute later I said "the symbols were ancient, I had no control. They mean everything, EVERY single thing possible. They are everywhere but we can't see them anymore."

Within only a short time I felt completely sober, and I started telling them a more coherent version of what happened... with who/what/when/where/how instead of the abstract, crazy shit I said earlier.

What I just typed is a mixture of what they said I said, and what I wrote down on paper about an hour after I came down. They said I was completely still with my eyes close for about 10 minutes. I started opening my eyes but didn't respond to them for another 2 or 3 minutes. Approximately 30 minutes after I smoked, I was completely back to normal.

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May. 5, 2008 | 1:03 AM VeryProudofYa says:

man... that's fuckin' wild.

To be honest, I'd never really givin much thought to DMT, this despite having read a few pages out of the Spirit Drug book one of my friends has been reading. You've definitely sparked an interest. Luckily I live in a pretty drug heavy town, so we'll see how acquiring it goes.

How'd it go for the other people?

May. 5, 2008 | 1:17 AM cellardoor6 responds:

The people that did it were me, my brother, my fiance, and one of my friends (2 people pussed out). My fiance messed up and didn't get a good enough hit, tried again and it didn't work, she said she only felt a mild weird feeling before it wore off.

My brother's trip was mild compared to mine, he didn't get any visitors, but he said he still had a very intense outer body experience, and he got transported to a "temple, with an altar made out of lightning". My friend had a really, really intense trip like I did, except he's having a hard time explaining it and remembering it. He was freaked out immediately afterward, but he's completely normal now, pretty much just casual about it. He was here earlier and he only typed about a paragraph before he started watching TV. All we've got out of him so far is that he saw a lot of patterns, and he was "bombarded with waves of energy".


May. 5, 2008 | 1:20 AM BaronVonBadGuy says:

Amazing.


May. 5, 2008 | 2:54 AM JackPhantasm says:

Ah so no flame.

So should I pack like a huge vapo bowl of it for longer effects you think?

Sounds awesome. Were these like mental images that you described or were your eyes open and you were literally there. or some of both.

May. 5, 2008 | 8:51 PM cellardoor6 responds:

These weren't just mental images.

You know when you are dreaming and you know you're dreaming, but everything still seems real? That's the best way I can describe it.

It was the most intense thing ever. What's crazy is I'm having a hard time remembering the details of it. I still remember the main theme of it, but some of the shit I could recall easily yesterday just seems hazy as hell now. I feel like I've been robbed a bit because yesterday I was so psyched and now it just seems like it happened years ago.


May. 5, 2008 | 3:24 AM MachineElf says:

Hi, I posted in your thread while it was deleted. I said quite a lot, and feel like it should at least be posted somewhere... hope you don't mind!

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Discussing drugs on the general forum is a pretty fucked idea. You're just gonna get flooded by a bunch of pissed off 13 year olds who have been sucking on the tit of propaganda for their whole lives, and haven't even taken a single drag of a joint before, and think they know everything there is to know about drugs.

I have taken DMT many times, and I must say, it's quite the experience. The instant you inhale, the world around you becomes pulsating colors and lights wriggling through the folds of another dimension. I've experienced both open and closed eye visuals before, however the OEV are much more confusing.

For a while I had been looking for this chemical, after reading about it. I searched all over for it, but finally came across some at a music festival. My friends being the crack heads they are wanted to try it that instant, however I refused. We took it back with us, and tried it in the comfort of our own homes.

EXPERIENCES

The first time, I smoked it wrong. I was unfamiliar with how to "spin a dick", as we were freebasing it. I didn't get much smoke, and thus, barely felt anything. I then watched my friend make an attempt, and the piece totally filled with smoke, and the instant he inhaled it, laid back onto the bean bag. He would lay there with his eyes closed for a while, and then open them, and look around the room very confused. He did all sorts of things, like rub a blanket to his face, and examine his hands... he was very confused where he was. I saw him staring at the blue light coming out of the speakers, he seemed to get lost in it... light is the most amazing thing on DMT, no matter how minuscule (in the open eye universe, that is). He mentioned that the room around him when his eyes were open around him was very confusing, and posters seemed to warp and distort. But fuck his trip, I'd rather tell you about mine.

Naturally I was very jealous that he was able to platform, while I got nothing at all. My other friend picked up some DMT from another person at the festival, and once he finally stopped being a pussy, came over and we tried it. I went first again, but this time it worked. The crystals we acquired were amber, which is shitty DMT... but even shitty DMT is amazing. I inhaled and instantly, everything before my eyes became colors and patterns. I saw a light from behind my friends head, and I could not stop staring at it. It was so beautiful, so bright.. I knew that I should explore my closed eye visuals, so I laid back on the beanbag and closed my eyes. I was lost in a clusterfuck of color, so much blue, green, red, and purple, pulsating in a 3D space... it was amazing. I felt a buzz run through my entire body, felt pretty cool. After I stopped peaking, I jumped up. "WOW THAT WAS THE COOLEST THING EVER!" I screamed. I could not shut up about it, I kept talking about how great that was, little did I know the trip I had was rather weak. I got up, went to the bathroom, and turned on the lights, and got lost in them. I felt recharged, and awake... as you know (hopefully at this point in the thread), DMT is the chemical released when you go into REM sleep... so I assumed that's why I felt so awake. My friend tried it after me, and was lost staring at these hangars, he said that they were unwrapping and wriggling around the room... whatever...

So for a while, we thought we would have to wait for a festival to ever come across it... that all changed when a great man informed my friend that it was really easy to make. After several failed batches, he eventually got the technique down, first creating slightly yellowish crystals, and eventually getting them almost a clearish white... and he didn't even need to recrystalize, which basically purifies it but shortens the yield.

This stuff was so much more amazing than the amber crap we acquired at the festival. The instant I inhaled, it was way more intense and I literally could not keep my eyes open. I reclined into the bean bag, and entered this bubble of colors and patterns. I remember moving my body and head, attempting to control the bubble as I flew through some strange universe. I could feel the DMT in every inch of my body, I had grown familiar to it, and began to understand it (We actually got stupid and I smoked kief out of the piece, and got a rather slight trip, which gave me a good understanding on the feeling of DMT, since it wasn't as intense). So when I got the body high this time, I knew exactly what I was feeling, I could just feel the DMT in my fingertips, to my toes, and obviously in my head.

One time I decided to try it by myself, and that was the scariest trip on it I've had yet. I did it in my living room, but then all of a sudden I wasn't.. I mean, I could still see my TV, and my couch... except I could see everything with much more color. The room was almost entirely dark before, and suddenly everything had an eerie red tint to it. I was VERY confused, but then something even weireder happened. Suddenly I was no longer alone, and I felt the presence of two beings at my sides, talking in some language that I could not understand. I do not believe they were talking to me, and I also believe they might have been female, but there's no way of knowing. I felt them touch me, and it was really rather odd. I was a little freaked out, and hopped onto the computer to talk it out with some AIM buddies. You should always try to talk your trips out after doing them, it helps you gather your thoughts on the situation, and make sense of what just happened. DMT is very confusing, and hard to remember at times.

Real life distractions will pull you out of your trip, and will be the only thing you remember, as it makes much more sence than some dimension you're not familiar with. One trip was so intense, yet all I could recall were my friends laughing at my as my balls were tripped all the way to planet mindfuck.. that was rather irritating. Things such as cell phones going off, or people talking will suck you back down to earth, and fuck up your trip, to learn more about this, go below and read the techniques section, unless you don't wish to have the best experience possible, that is (and I'm sure you do, as most people only get one chance to try it, isntead of an infinite amount)

I haven't done it in a while, yet his batches keep getting purer and purer... I have yet to fully break through to the other side, and see a Machine Elf (*think was supposed to link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_
elf
) first hand, but I might be able to, next time. The thing is, when I was trying it, we didn't have a scale that could weigh out .00, so we just had to eyeball it, going off of what we had recieved at the festival. Once we DID get a scale, we learned we were taking maybe .015 to .02 doses... which are rather weak. A dose is somewhere from .02 to .05... I actually wanted to try some again this weekend, but couldn't find a ride out there.. maybe next weekend I will break through, and return to this thread!

Some funny stuff I've experienced watching other users, or just some more stories to share..

I watched a kid smoke DMT sprinkled on a snapper of weed, while he was on LSD... oh boy was that kid fucked up. He started talking in some language that I had never heard of before, a lot of wind like noises.. I don't know, it's hard to describe. He was out of it for a good 20 minutes, just "talking" to himself. It was his first time trying it as well. I've heard a girl say "it's like a kaliedascope in my brain!" which I thought is a pretty good interpritation. I watched my friend smoke some on top of a weed snapper after a fat smoking section, and he said "I never knew so many colors existed before!"


May. 5, 2008 | 3:25 AM MachineElf says:

TECHNIQUE

Let's say you've acquired some, and want to have the best experience possible, I mean, who wouldn't? First of all, try to have as little people around you as possible, but I'd recommend at least one. Have good friends by your side who won't try to fuck with you, and will SHUT THE FUCK UP, and let you experience it. Have everyone turn off their cellphones, and turn off any other distractions. Turn off all the lights, with maybe just a really dim light in the background... a little light is good, too much would be overwhelming. The closed eye visuals are really where it's at. Set yourself up somewhere really comfortable, where you can just lay back, close your eyes, and relax. As soon as you inhale, have your friend take the piece from your hands, and then just lay back on some nice comfy pillows, and let the experience happen. It's natural for a friend to want to ask "hey dude what's it feel like?" or "hey man, you're not saying anything, what's going on?" Tell them in advance not to let that shit happen. Talking while on it is not easy, but you can go ahead and make an attempt to describe what's going on, it's kinda funny. Once you're able to talk again, you still will feel the effects, but try to talk it out as soon as you can. The trip will be very confusing, so try to discuss it with your friends, talk about what you saw, and have them describe to you what they saw you doing. Slowly, you will piece your whole trip together.

If you've done any sort of online reasearch, you will know that the smoke is very harsh, and tastes like burnt plastic. Try to hold it in as long as you can... some people just can't do it. If you do it right, you probably won't even feel it. After inhaling, I felt my lungs go numb and tingly, and it instantly spread outwards... I don't even remember the taste really... well, until afterwards. I can taste it when I'm done tripping, and always spit up a nasty loogie. I wanted to record myself tripping, but it was always too dark to see anything, so I gave up on that. If you have a good camera that can see in the dark, be my guest, it would probably make a good video... although you just kind of look like you're sleeping for 20 minutes... Not sure how great of a video that would be for someone watching other than yourself. Oh yeah, and be safe! (duh)

IS IT HARMLESS?

I've seen a lot of discussion in this thread about whether or not it's harmless. Obviously any drug is going to have SOME sort of side effect, but I can say that while it may not be 100% harmless, I would say that there's nothing to really worry about. Since extensive research has not been done on it, you can't really say there's no side effects. Yes, it's naturally produced in your brain, but how do you know for sure that it doesn't effect your pineal gland (where it's excreted from). What happens if you understand DMT, and right before you die, your brain pumps it out in order to cope with death, will you still be able to cope with it? Who knows, not me, that's for sure. But I can say that you don't feel like you've done a drug after doing it. You don't feel cracked out, you just feel really glowy. You don't feel dumber, or anything really. Within 30 minutes it's almost like you never did it in the first place, with the exception of what's racing through your head, trying to collect your thoughts. It's believed that you cannot overdose on it, and that an overdose will just result in no recollection of the experience. But has someone sat down and smoked two whole grams in one bowl? Sure, it's probably impossible, but who knows what would happen. I will say that it's relatively harmless, with even less side effects than weed (or at least I believe so). It's hard to argue either way, when nobody knows, so quit your back and forth bickering (ug, general forum).


May. 5, 2008 | 3:27 AM MachineElf says:

I gotta say, that's one hell of a trip. If you read all that blargen above, you'd know that I've been taking really small doses. Next time I will do it, I will do it RIGHT. Alas, I have done it many times before... but, just not right. It's funny, I really wanted to do some this weekend but had no ride out there, then all of a sudden your thread pops up. Oh man, I need to go see some REAL machine elves... something I've not been blessed with. I'm very jealous of you my good sir, but then again, I've been known not to trip as hard as others.

I leave you with this picture of a machine elf i posted in your thread.

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9099 /machineelfks0.jpg


May. 5, 2008 | 11:54 AM Evark says:

Fascinating. I knew reading about your experience would be worthwhile and had hoped to do so within the confines of the thread you created. I actually had a response drafted tearing into a few of the trolls in your thread, but went to a concert and returned to a disappeared thread. : (

Anyway, it sounds very interesting. I was curious to see how other's mentions of the "presence of aliens" symptom would manifest itself in your trip, and the idea of six different creatures showing you incredible wonders seemed to fit perfectly, ha ha.

Personally, I doubt I'll try smoking DMT in my lifetime. But if I ever do this firsthand experience will have given me a decent idea what it's all about. Grill your buddy about his trip. If it was intense and he can't remember it, but was freaked out immediately afterwards, it was probably because his trip was extremely poor at one point. He may appreciate the confidance, or (since he seems to be unwilling to admit to remembering the experience) he legitimately might not want to talk about it at all.

JackPhantasm: if you're going to try this stuff, try to draw something and share it when you do. I'd be interested in seeing that, as well as a recounting of your experience.


May. 5, 2008 | 12:37 PM MachineElf says:

Evan, you weren't suggesting that he try to draw something while he's ON it, were you? If so, that would be literally impossible, and would only ruin your trip. Not that anyone could possibly grasp picking up a drawing utensil and bringing it to a piece of paper in that condition. However, the results could be rather humorous, but would lessen his DMT experience.


May. 5, 2008 | 8:27 PM life says:

Thanks for writing about your trip. That sucks that the thread was deleted. I can't say much else then what's already been stated above, so thanks for the awesome read.

May. 5, 2008 | 9:02 PM cellardoor6 responds:

Any word on who deleted the thread yet? Don't I deserve a PM explaining why it got deleted or whatever?

Ah well. At least my blog post can't be deleted right?


May. 5, 2008 | 9:59 PM therealsylvos says:

Holy shit dude.
Just Holy Shit.
I know almost nothing about different drug highs?

How does it compare with LSD and other's?

May. 6, 2008 | 3:25 AM cellardoor6 responds:

Completely different dynamic, completely different level.

With varying dosages, people might get similar kinds of experiences. A low dose of DMT might be similar to a moderate dose of LSD. A really high dose of LSD or psilocybin mushrooms can give you outer body experiences, but the feel and effect of DMT that I had is completely unique. It's completely distinct from anything I've ever experienced or imagined.

But what frustrates me is, as hard as I try, I cannot put the pieces together of what happened. I keep rereading what I typed yesterday, but I'm not satisfied with my explanation, because I know certain things happened in between the key events I listed, but I can't recall them. My explanation just seems empty now to me.


May. 5, 2008 | 10:19 PM MadCow says:

God dammit, I'm so fucking jealous. I wanna get my hands on that shit so fucking bad even before I started doing shrooms and acid!


May. 6, 2008 | 2:39 AM SadisticMonkey says:

Obviously not to a minor such as myself, but do you recommend it?

May. 6, 2008 | 3:06 AM cellardoor6 responds:

You know, it would depend on the person.

First off, the whole process of trying to get it is something to warn against in and of itself. It's ridiculously hard to find and incredibly expensive. I don't even think there is a going rate for DMT, because of how rare it is, but I paid $200 for what I had (400mg). That's added on to the fact people are likely to waste it, because of how difficult it is to smoke it correctly.

As for the trip itself, there is no way I can gauge how prepared someone is for it. I don't think you can prepare for it, I wasn't prepared. It's so fucking alien and foreign what happens to you, I don't have the ability to decide for someone else if they can take it. I can definitely imagine that some people who have less experience with having their world rocked than I have would get scared (more so than I was) though. Some people might react really negatively to it. If you're interested, go ahead, but I'd advise someone to think about it really, really hard before simply doing it because they hear someone like me talk about it. It's not a casual thing, at all.

Basically, I don't recommend it for the average person. And frankly, although I'm thinking about doing it again, I don't see it having any meaningful impact or anything on my life or the way I see things. I'm going to do it maybe one more time and see how I feel after that. But the nature of it doesn't make it seem like as momentous of an occasion as I originally thought. It was definitely the craziest thing that has ever happened to me but the fact that what happened gets so hard to remember so quickly after you do it, makes it pretty hard to reflect on and translate into anything meaningful.

But, you know, do what you want.

EDIT:

It IS illegal. So keep that in mind as well. You can get busted for it, hard.

Updated: May. 6, 2008, 3:07 AM

May. 6, 2008 | 5:53 AM Jesse-Ray says:

Wow it's like complete lucid dreaming, did you get any kind of euphoric feeling from it and would you do it again?

May. 6, 2008 | 7:25 PM cellardoor6 responds:

I guess it was sort of like lucid dreaming, in that you are fully immersed in what's happening, but that isn't a sufficient comparison. Also, you can't steer it like you can a lucid dream, there's no way to exert even the slightest bit of control over what happens.

I didn't get a euphoric feeling really, either during or after. I got kind of a loaded-up feeling, like the feeling of anticipation, but no euphoria. Afterwards I was really hyper for a while and laughed and smiled a lot. But that's probably not a mental effect of the drug, probably just how I reacted to the experience, kind of like after getting off a rollercoaster people are all giddy for short amount of time.


May. 6, 2008 | 7:02 AM Rosenrot-I says:

Your thread got me really really interested in this stuff, in fact I just got out two books from the library explaining the full effects and studies conducted on it, although I realize that will do shit in terms of preparation for the experience.
I know you've done LSD before, does that make any difference at all in terms of being able to cope with it?
I've done it and had no trouble controlling it, but is DMT a completely different experience altogether?

Also thanks for the this post, sounds incredible. You should post it on www.erowid.org for others to see.

May. 6, 2008 | 7:37 PM cellardoor6 responds:

Taking LSD might prepare someone a little bit, but what happens is so far and above an LSD trip, and so dissimilar from it, I don't think it will help really. I don't think anything can actually deliberately prepare themselves for it.

Think about it this way. LSD and shrooms change how you look at things, they basically give you a different angle of how your brain interprets information.

DMT didn't do that to me, it simply replaced everything that I had to look at. Unlike on LSD and Shrooms where my whole state of mind changed, on DMT I felt almost completely normal. It was like my normal brain patterns were still there, but my brain simply got rocketed into a place where every thing is entirely dissimilar from what its used to.


May. 6, 2008 | 10:16 AM MachineElf says:

It's legal in Holland... let's go over there and trip balls to the milky way galaxy!


May. 6, 2008 | 10:42 AM ThePretenders says:

How much did you pay for the DMT?


May. 6, 2008 | 11:21 AM MickTheChampion says:

Next time bring a tape recorder, or even stick your mobile phone like on record or something.

May. 6, 2008 | 7:41 PM cellardoor6 responds:

That was the original plan.

But it wouldn't really make sense to, because during the trip I didn't move or say anything. I could maybe record what I said afterward.


May. 6, 2008 | 3:56 PM MachineElf says:

ThePretenders: He said he paid $200 for 400mg. It's expensive stuff.

MickTheChampion: The audio isn't really worth capturing, you'd rather watch them, even though they basically just look like they are asleep for 15 minutes.


May. 6, 2008 | 5:52 PM MachineElf says:

By the way, this is how I first heard about DMT. If you haven't seen this, check it out! Yes, that means YOU!

http://webzone.k3.mah.se/kit01051/fla shback.swf


May. 7, 2008 | 9:39 AM Rosenrot-I says:

Would you do it again?

May. 7, 2008 | 11:00 PM cellardoor6 responds:

I probably will.


May. 8, 2008 | 10:25 PM poxpower says:

Bwaha this is an awesome description.

I have almost zero experience with any of that drug business because well I don't really know anyone who's into that. I am a pretty good dreamer though, maybe that can have impacts on it? I remember my dreams quite vividly sometimes years afterwards. If I applied myself, I could keep an extremely detailed dream book.

I wonder if a person's ability to remember their dreams has an effect on this.

Ar it sounds pretty neat. Btw haha@Joe Rogan having an isolation tank in his basement. Whew I wish I had all this neat heroin and coke and salvia stuff to try. Guess I didn't pick the right college to go to :o Stupid Canada.

Well, back to huffing CLR and model glue while I moderate the BBS.


May. 9, 2008 | 2:57 PM Redface says:

That sounds like a wicked trip. Stuff that powerful sounds like it really fuck you up, but fun to use sparringly once ever blue moon.

P.S. I apperantly am the uneducated version of you.


May. 10, 2008 | 5:48 AM AapoJoki says:

Wow, if you were a member of a certain Brazilian religious cult, you could consume this drug legally in America.

You'd have to take it in the form of tea, so I doubt the effect would be quite that immense... but what an unfair privilige to give for a religion.

May. 10, 2008 | 6:08 AM cellardoor6 responds:

Yeah, that's Ayahuasca.

Lucky natives.

Seriously though, that's an interesting topic. The thing about DMT is that when you take it orally, it's only active when you take it in combination with an MOA inhibitor like harmine.

People who lived in jungles thousands of years ago somehow knew that you had to take a plant that contained DMT, and take it with another plant containing harmine... as a tea. How in the hell they figured that out boggles my mind. But they figured it out somehow anyway, and tripped balls in the jungle and created the Long-Count calendar.

Trippy shit.


May. 10, 2008 | 12:02 PM Redface says:

Well, maybe there was a long, strenuous trial-and-error process.

Natives are resourceful, but they aren't scientists by any means.


May. 10, 2008 | 9:15 PM MachineElf says:

*MAOI inhibitor.

i know, you hate me :X

May. 11, 2008 | 6:09 AM cellardoor6 responds:

Um, you're wrong though.

The "I" in "MAOI" stands for inhibitor. So it is entirely proper to say MAO inhibitor, MAO being monoamine oxidase. If you do as you did and say "MAOI inhibitor" you're repeating "inhibitor" in the title.

All I did was a typo by saying "MOA".


May. 11, 2008 | 11:13 PM Elfer says:

That forgetfulness that comes the day after you use a psychedelic drug bothers me. Just like with dreams, it's like trying to hold onto a handful of sand. I guess the best any of us can do is get more experience with the altered state and with recording our experiences.


May. 12, 2008 | 12:35 PM Catoblepas says:

So you were just sitting still with your eyes closed while you experienced all this? So you were kind of physically paralyzed, even though you were mentally doing all kinds of things? Or were you just sitting and watching everything happening around you in the trip as well?

May. 12, 2008 | 12:41 PM cellardoor6 responds:

I wasn't physically paralyzed, because they said I moved around just a little bit... I'd move my head or my feet or something. But I had absolutely no sense of my body or where I was for the duration of the trip, minus the very beginning and the very end.

As I said before, they told me I had my eyes open for a few minutes at the end and they were talking to me. But I don't remember that at all, and I didn't respond to them. So I was still tripping too hard to even attempt to know what was going on around me in the real world.


May. 12, 2008 | 3:12 PM Stomer says:

Where can I get some and how do I take it?

I mean...

What you did was wrong... *shifty eyes*


May. 12, 2008 | 3:19 PM Earfetish says:

very cool. Balls were certainly tripped. I had heard it was more of a 'grand communion with the angels' thing but that sounds pretty swell too.

May. 12, 2008 | 4:19 PM cellardoor6 responds:

I'm sure some religious people might interpret the visitors to be angels. Some think they are elves, some think they are robots, some think they are demons. Some just realize that DMT makes you trip so hard that your hallucinations take on personalities.


May. 12, 2008 | 5:17 PM Victory says:

Did you actually enjoy the experience?

May. 12, 2008 | 5:56 PM cellardoor6 responds:

Can't say.

I don't know.


May. 13, 2008 | 6:18 AM OhStalingrad says:

Prove me wrong, Cellar. Respond to my latest PM to you instead of just blocking me...and I'll stop PMing you, I promise.

May. 13, 2008 | 8:32 PM cellardoor6 responds:

I did prove you wrong, that's the hilarious thing.

You made a gigantic rant that included absolutely zero facts or sources of any kind. It was all your opinion. I provided facts and credible links that completely obliterated the premise of your entire argument.

I blocked you because, as I said before, you are getting incredibly annoying. You're just a complete idiot.


May. 13, 2008 | 10:07 AM Elfer says:

Geez, you people really let cellar get to you, don't you?


May. 13, 2008 | 7:24 PM Al6200 says:

So was it blurry and jumpy, like a dream? Or was it more coherent and clear?

Of course, the snake thing is pretty freaky. I mean, if you remember it, could you really see the thing in resolution like it was real, or was it just like a dream where you don't really see anything in high resolution.

I'd be scared out of my mind to hallucinate like that, but I'm glad it worked out for you.


May. 14, 2008 | 7:07 PM CleansingFlame says:

Interesting. So what kinda of side-effects are there? Brain damage?Teeth clenching or anything like that?


May. 16, 2008 | 1:45 AM Peacekid says:

Should I try this out?


May. 20, 2008 | 7:11 PM kustdro says:

DMT gets old just as fast as salvia. Stick to some good old fashioned shrooms dude.


May. 26, 2008 | 6:52 PM Eggys says:

damn i remember that thread.

I guess that stuff just throws you into a dream more or less.


May. 26, 2008 | 11:18 PM Infinite-one says:

Should be careful around that kinda stuff.

Don't want you to go through what little Jimmy went through.

Jun. 1, 2008 | 10:14 AM cellardoor6 responds:

Who is little Jimmy?


Jun. 1, 2008 | 1:23 AM Infinite-one says:

Poor Jimmy. He thinks he's an orange now.

Please don't become an orange.

Jun. 1, 2008 | 10:15 AM cellardoor6 responds:

"Jimmy" is a recurring theme with you, isn't he?


Jun. 1, 2008 | 5:06 PM Infinite-one says:

Real name. Real person.

Quit insulting his name.


Jun. 1, 2008 | 5:55 PM Infinite-one says:

Wait a sec, you don't want to approve comments this time?

Jun. 1, 2008 | 11:36 PM cellardoor6 responds:

I could just block your goofy punkass.


Jun. 3, 2008 | 10:46 PM Infinite-one says:

Why? Have I upset you?

What'd I do wrong?


Jun. 5, 2008 | 11:49 PM Michaelas10 says:

CRACKING MY HEAD INTO PIECES


Jun. 11, 2008 | 11:35 PM Creek says:

That's an interesting trip. I live in a place where you can get any type of drug without much searching. My freinds have told me about their trips when they were on Salvia, Mescaline, LSD, and other shit, and it sounded really interesting to me. I wanted to try it, but then I remembered I'm on 60mg of Adderall (Mixed Amphetamines) every day (ADHD) and I've been told not to mix it with anything. I want to try hallucinogens but I don't want to die. :(

Anyways, that trip is really cool.. I like reading about people's trips, I just think they're interesting. Make sure to tell us about other trips you had / will have.


Jun. 18, 2008 | 12:18 AM Scooter245 says:

Is it illegal, and what does it do to your body. Also, what kind of drugs are legal? I just had weed once (one joint on New Years cuz I found it at a party) and it was pretty fun.


Jun. 18, 2008 | 3:36 AM TomsPulp says:

ur a fucking dumbass......and if you come back and comment why your not that is just an epic failure...

Jun. 18, 2008 | 10:02 PM cellardoor6 responds:

Your opinion is moot. The simple fact that you (being the biggest dumbass ever) called me a dumbass is actually the strongest evidence possible to prove how awesome I am.


Jun. 18, 2008 | 9:17 PM Achilles2 says:

Nice post in that "BlackAmericans vs. AfricanAmericans" thread. I agree 100%, and I'm black (LOLOLOL THAT SOMEHOW MAKES A DIFFERENCE). I think you should watch The Boondocks - it basically says the same thing you said.


Jun. 18, 2008 | 11:59 PM Sekhem says:

did i ever tell you how great you are?


Jun. 19, 2008 | 3:04 AM TomsPulp says:

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOO LOLOL you know you easily coulda died cuz the guy that made it coulda fucked up and made it DMZ not DMT and it coulda killed you. also ur a dumbass still.

Jun. 22, 2008 | 7:10 PM cellardoor6 responds:

Kill yourself.


Jun. 19, 2008 | 3:34 AM DJ-Keen says:

That sounds like one hell of an out of body experience. I've always wanted to try something like that, that would just BLOW my mind. Though just reading through that, gave me visuals that made me feel stranger than any drug I've taken ever has. Would you do it again? Also, if I wanted to get some of this stuff, would it cost me a small fortune?


Jun. 20, 2008 | 2:05 PM physicsman09 says:

I don't get it.
You're proud that you're a drug user?

Pardon me if I sound whiney, but I don't think you should be posting all of your "drug adventures" on NG. I know that I personally, do not want NG turning into a site that harbors illegal activity.
And the last thing we want is the FBI doing an investigation on Tom Fulp.

Jun. 22, 2008 | 7:12 PM cellardoor6 responds:

1) Define "drug". Everyone is a drug user, you just have it in your mind that any drug you think is bad makes using it automatically some horrible thing.

Meanwhile, your mom takes pills to make her happy and your grandpa takes pills that give him an erection.

Is that more or less natural than taking a drug like DMT that your body produces naturally?

2) NG didn't harbor activity. Talking about drug experiences is not illegal.


Jun. 22, 2008 | 10:33 PM Sinitech says:

Sounds like an incredible trip. I wouldn't dare try something so potent. I guess that makes me a pussy, lol.


Jun. 24, 2008 | 7:07 AM ZOMG3 says:

How does it feel to be owned in a debate, druggie?

Jun. 24, 2008 | 5:30 PM cellardoor6 responds:

You should probably take another look, because not only did you get owned, but you embarrassed yourself as well... suggesting that you actually owned me.

LOL


Jun. 25, 2008 | 5:42 AM Cericon says:

I have a question.

Penis.

Jun. 26, 2008 | 11:29 PM cellardoor6 responds:

I have a penis.

Question?


Jun. 26, 2008 | 7:33 AM ThePretenders says:

I have never heard of DMT until I visited your page. Man, I need to get some DMT now!


Jun. 27, 2008 | 12:52 AM firemaker60 says:

So according to my speculations, both DMT and hypnosis can cause the pineal gland, the so-called "third eye", to create a magnetic field that blocks and prevents us from feeling this reality and pushes our souls or consciences out of our bodies and into different dimensions. I have heard of a hypnotherapist who was able to "imagine" himself into an outer body experience. He said that the only other requirement to travel time and dimensions is to listen to new age music. Since I'm too young to even go on the hunt for DMT, I tried the therapist's method. I had an experience that I thought was very similar to a drug trip; I saw otherworldly beings and found different settings. So tell me what you think about that and if you're interested, here is the method of self-hypnosis:

http://www.drbrucegoldberg.com/FifthD imension.htm


Jun. 30, 2008 | 2:43 PM SeifAdnan says:

R.I.P houdini the ferret

he was not long for this world :'(


Jun. 30, 2008 | 8:50 PM X-TERRORIST-X says:

Let me just say I'm impressed with how well you write, and the high-quality posts you make on the BBS. This "trip" you describe almost makes me want to try it myself. I don't think I'm willing to take the risk of getting busted though.

Even though I appreciate you writing this, I think it's pretty dumb considering you have no idea who is going to read it. There could be a cop right now tracking your IP address.

But hey, your choice.


Jul. 4, 2008 | 7:51 PM ZOMG3 says:

I was going to post in the 4th of July thread but I have been banned for 14 days and I want to say that the evil empire will fall and America reign of terror will cease to exist. The oppressed people of the world will join together and celebrate the day when justice prevails and evil is stopped. Fuck America the corporate fascist regime.


Jul. 7, 2008 | 8:51 AM SeifAdnan says:

60th comment


Jul. 14, 2008 | 7:53 AM DavidArchuletaa says:

hey Obama arse licker. I think you like black cocks.


Jul. 24, 2008 | 10:02 PM x-Exodus-X says:

X-TERRORIST-X, we live in the US, where you have the freedom of speech. Sorry man, but they can't arrest him for SAYING he does drugs. Especially not over the internet...


Aug. 5, 2008 | 1:11 AM Fuoco says:

Even dreams can be very vivid some times. In my most vivid dreams I have composed the most wonderful orchestral song I ever heard, yet when I wake up I can't recall it nor write it down.
It's not surprising that such powerful drug could evoke such experience. Certainly something new and interesting for you.

Sadly, it's no different story from other people who died doing so. I am no doctor yet, but I am in the medical school and I spend a lot of time at many hospitals.
I'd say it's sad seeing these people suffering because of their addiction or even dying, but no. Not really. Frankly, I look at them and I can only think of how can anybody reach such levels of stupidity. Medical resources going to waste because somebody decided to try some new drug.

Don't try it again, you don't want to end up like they did.
It'll control you no matter what.


Aug. 6, 2008 | 2:16 AM Infinite-one says:

Thank you for your information regarding those two rifles.


Aug. 9, 2008 | 9:24 PM thedo12 says:

well in the months I havent argued with I realized that argueing with you is a waste of time (and argueing in general)

but I do have one last question for you,

why do you hate canada so much?

I mean even in your eyes I doubt were the worst country in the world , and at least despite all you can complian about in canada were not some retarded communist country like china.

maybe canada is the most disfunctional country in the world, but certianly not the worst.


Aug. 10, 2008 | 10:08 PM AniMetal says:

You've.....either made a mountain of respect or lost a mountain of respect....i'm not enitely sure yet.


Aug. 15, 2008 | 6:18 AM AdairTishler says:

I've only hallucinated a few times

once when I had an extreme high fever

the others during several hypnagogic episodes

both were extremely unenjoyable


Aug. 15, 2008 | 7:19 AM killerjeff says:

You're on ED.


Aug. 16, 2008 | 6:20 AM killerjeff says:

Oh shut up will you?



Aug. 17, 2008 | 2:04 AM MojoFilter says:

Would you call it a spiritual experience, or just a biological mind fuck?


Aug. 20, 2008 | 3:12 PM Doom-Fan says:

I always thought that 'seeing stars and creatures' was just an over exaggeration of taking drugs. That's... pretty wild that you actually get to see that stuff.

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